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Re: OWNERSHIP: redistribution 2 - absolute property rights



Ed Dodson responding...
Norman Kurland wrote (7/23/03):
 

I regret that I don't have more time to devote to the COG discussions, but this exchange between Michael Bindner and Ed Dotson is a simple challenge that binary economists cannot ignore.

I disagree with both Michael and Ed  for reasons covered in the Kelsonian tax philosophy section of my paper, "Beyond ESOP: Steps Toward Tax Justice" ...  Ed is clearly more of a populist, but his advocacy of Henry George's single tax on land rents is on the same slippery slope of the neo-Welfare State ideas advocated by Michael.

Regarding rent from land, why not structure land ownership (e.g., through the use of a "community investment corporation" or "CIC") so that all citizens own equity shares in the land and other natural resources, as Kelso proposed?  Then "rent" from development would take the form of appreciated equity values and dividend incomes that would be connected directly through private property stakes to all citizens of a community, region or nation, depending on the nature of the natural resource owned by the CIC.  This would build economic power and ownership incomes directly in the people, from the ground-up, rather than allowing the rents to flow automatically into the hands of the politicians and bureaucrats.

Ed here:

The idea of a community investment corporation in which all citizens are equal shareholders is a good one. The implication, as I interpret it, is that leaseholds would replace fee simple ownership. Here is where justice as well as economic efficiency benefit by an application of competitive bidding for contorl over specific locations and natural resource laden lands. The fees collected can be fully distributed to each citizen as a dividend. The community can then bill citizens for community-provided goods and services (i.e., impose user fees). Public goods economics reminds us, however, that not all public goods and services are easily or best paid for by user fees.

Norman wrote:

To the ordinary citizen a consumption income from rent and other natural resources is no different from that received from other forms of capital (assuming, as under Kelso's binary economic theories, that we define "capital" to include natural resources as well as all other non-human factors of production.)  Once the rent and other binary incomes flow into the pockets of citizens universally, as would automatically happen under the proposed "Capital Homestead Act", the government would then be forced to go to the people to meet the public sector's legitimate budgetary needs and not simply have a "pot" from land rents to play with to continue to make decisions from the top-down.

Ed here:

My only comment is to stress what I have come to see as the fundamental observation that nature is not produced by human labor or by human-produced capital goods. Henry George argued (persuasively, I believe, from a moral perspective) that nature is the source of wealth but not wealth itself. This distinction is extremely important in the discussion over what ought to be protected under law as private property. Kelso and Adler took a very different view, writing in *The Capitalist Manifesto* (p.49) "In a free society ... wealth is anything that is regarded as wealth by a significant number of persons. Anything which is prized for its exchange value and which is bought, sold, exchanged, or systematically collected and exchanged among collectors, is thereby empiracally determined to be wealth." For Mortimer Adler to have come to this conclusion is strange, indeed, because it ignores the "ought," it ignores the moral imperative. Henry George set down what I would describe as a labor and capital goods theory of property, defining wealth as material goods produced by labor and capital that has exchange value and satisfies some desire or desires.

Norman wrote:

I think Henry George's critique of the current system was brilliant, even if I disagree with the political wisdom of his single tax reform.  Attached for those interested is a paper I delivered to a Georgist conference several years ago on a new "post-scarcity" synthesis of the best of Kelso, Buckminster Fuller and Henry George.

Here is a brief excerpt from a note explaining the similarities and differences between Kelso and George, as well as other great economic theorists:
 

...While Kelso attacked economic monopolies and plutocratic concentrations of capital assets as the cause of the purchasing power gap that Douglas was rightfully concerned with, Kelso's approach would redistribute future ownership opportunities (i.e. new assets and assets transferred by deaths and sales). Kelso thus avoids the class conflict that is associated with the charitable or government-imposed redistribution of previously accumulated assets (as implied by distributism) or involuntary redistribution of incomes through taxation.  While Kelso would end the monopoly of access to future ownership, he would do so without deriving anyone of what they own, mainly by growing the asset pie and spreading the ownership and profit distributions to all citizens.
 
Ed here:
Well, I ask, is this justice, or simply more of what we have had in the social democracies since the beginning of liberalism; namely, what political scientists refer to as "disjointed incrementalism"? We already have a high degree of class conflict, growing worse. The source of this conflict is monopoly privilege. And, as Winston Churchill wrote long ago, land monopoly is not the only form of monopoly but it is the mother of all monopolies and the mother of our most serious societal problems.